Hi John
Just testing to see if you could factually justify any of the statements you made in your first reply by providing evidence.
After all you keep saying the RCCC cant justify theirs.
Looks like you may have the same problem when challenged to stick to facts.

Basic economics dictate that no matter what your costs are, if your income is not greater your stuffed.

Your proposed circle has not gone a head because it just a minor version of Kinross. Great idea but totally financially flawed.
Only a loss making organisation would consider building it and at the moment D Cameron & Partners will be difficult to convince.or a members owned and fully volunteer operated rink as our Canadian cousins do could perhaps make it viable.
Still perhaps someday Forum members may come together and build one, once they realise groups who stand and do nothing usually have nothing..

Just to get the circle into perspective if you can justify or produce evidence to prove each of your comments I have extracted from your previous post I will be won over.  

Stranraer, Kinross, Forfar, Drimsynie.


I suggest you read it again and again.


Funds from WCF or Sportscotland cannot be accessed without going through the RCCC. If they don't support the application, you won't get the money.


What's the difference?


The proposed NCA.


I didn't.


Because they prefer to listen to people who only tell them what they want to hear. We do our best to deal with facts, not wishlists.

Fine.

do I detect a hissy fit?!

SS - you have quickly learnt that certain people do not let the facts stand in the way of a good argument but JM presents a well balanced view -  chips on both shoulders the size of Maris Pipers

John
I have only been a member for short period but a reader from the beginning. I thought this site offered
an opportunity to members to air their views and eventually perhaps convince the RCCC management that it offered them another means of communication.
I am not on here to have a go at you, but to encourage the dedicated members to do something more about the real issues than just just post together about how badly treated we are.
One of the main problems of the site is its seen as your platform to keep whipping the RCCCs over the Circle, It is obvious to everyone else that you have reinvented the wheel for a Formula one car but cant get it fitted as standard on production models.
The Circle issue has now gone full Circle and should no longer dominate the forum, I will of course be delighted if there is more four sheet rinks built and if the can be done in the style of the Circle great but lets wait until that is likely to happen.
In the meantime take a reflective look at your strengths and encourage each other to something about the issues. It is as easy to email the RCCC, or even copy them in with your view as its to post.

Not meant to be a criticism but what have we collectively done with any of the following

The proposal to and the actual change in the rules of the Mens Qualification for the Europeans

The change in the date of the qualifiers to suit David Murdoch without considering what effect the change had on others.

The failure support Bob Cowans efforts to have the list of historical items published although it exists.

The failure to collectively support retaining ownership of the LEES painting.

Would we not be better trying do something about these and other issues than continually comparing them with the circle.

It was actually Robert Thomson that invented pneumatic tyres, but John Dunlop developed them into an economic and practical product. There's a lesson in there somewhere.

I stand corrected, but the point has been made. Wikipedia is wonderful, isn't it!

You underestimate me if you think that I rely on Wikipedia for basic facts like this.